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Did Jesus Believe he was god?:
By Shlomo Phillips © 10.31.2013
Christians of almost all denominations believe that Jesus son of Yosef (Y'shua ben Yosef) was God incarnate. As Jews we firmly reject this belief for several reasons as I discuss elsewhere. Believing anyone or anything to be equal to or independent of the Holy ONE, Blessed be He, violates Torah, the very heart of our sacred religion AND the teachings of Y'shua ben Yosef (Jesus).
This study consists of quotes from the four Gospel accounts of what he himself said about himself regarding this topic. All quotes are from the Authorized King James Version. All emphases are mine and are intended only to highlight the key points in his remarks. If you have questions or comments on this or other topic I invite you to contact me as always.
According to Matthew
4:10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law [Torah], or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil .
5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
(Note: but to fulfil: Hebrew: alla pleroo: but to imbue or refresh: to charge back up and renew).
6:9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
6:12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
(Note: For Y'shua, God was always Other than himself: Thy Name, not my name. HIS kingdom, not my kingdom etc.).
6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
(Note: He says: 'I can not you! Don't waste your breath praying to me, saying master, master, rather serve HaShem because He Alone can save you).
8:20 And Jesus saith unto him, The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head.
(Remember that there are no capital letters in Greek, so the capital "S" in Son throughout the New Testament (when applied to Jesus as Son of God, Son of Man etc) only reflects the Nicean Christian beliefs of the translators not the Greek texts.)
11:18 For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, He hath a devil.
11:19 The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners. But wisdom is justified of her children.
(Note: Y'shua equates himself with John, not with God).
11:25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.
11:26 Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight.
12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.
(Note: "... My Father," such a person is my kin, hence 'as God is my Father so too He theirs: He defines being a child of God with Torah observance).
13:57 And they were offended in him. But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, save in his own country, and in his own house.
(Note: He considered himself to be a prophet, not an incarnation God).
15:3 But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?
(Note: He says "commandment of God" not "my commandment").
15:13 But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up...
15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
(Note: He was "sent" by God, therefore he was not God. One can not send oneself).
16:13 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?
16:14 And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.
16:15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
16:16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
(Note: Peter believed that Y'shua was the Messiah (the Christ) and a son of God. Here as elsewhere it is plainly stated that Y'shua was a mortal man living in submission to the Will of HaShem, the Father. Remember too that there are no capital letters in Greek, so the capital "S" in Son throughout the New Testament (when applied to Jesus as Son of God, Son of Man etc) only reflects the Nicean Christian beliefs of the translators not the Greek texts).
18:14 Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish.
(Note: He does not say: it is not my will...).
18:35 So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.
19:4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female...
19:6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
(Note: He does not say: 'Have you not read that I made them... For Y'shua, God is always Other).
19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments [i.e. be Torah observant].
20:23 And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with [i.e. you will die as a martyr]: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father.
21:33 Hear another parable: There was a certain householder, which planted a vineyard, and hedged it round about, and digged a winepress in it, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a far country...
21:37 But last of all he sent unto them his son, saying, They will reverence my son.
21:38 But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance.
21:39 And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him.
26:39 And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt...
26:42 He went away again the second time, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if this cup may not pass away from me, except I drink it, thy will be done.
26:53 Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my Father, and he shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels?
27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
(Note: He forsook himself? There is no way Y'shua viewed himself as being God incarnate).
28:10 Then said Jesus unto them, Be not afraid: go tell my brethren that they go into Galilee, and there shall they see me.
(Note: He considered his followers to be his brothers and sisters. We are in no way the brothers and sisters of God!).
28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
3:33 And he answered them, saying, Who is my mother, or my brethren?
3:34 And he looked round about on them which sat about him, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!
3:35 For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.
(Note: Nowhere in the Bible does it even imply that we are God's brothers or sisters or mother! He considered himself to be human with human kin, both literally and figuratively).
6:4 But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, but in his own country, and among his own kin, and in his own house.
(Note: He considered himself to be a prophet, not God).
8:27 And Jesus went out, and his disciples, into the towns of Caesarea Philippi: and by the way he asked his disciples, saying unto them, Whom do men say that I am?
8:28 And they answered, John the Baptist: but some say, Elias; and others, One of the prophets.
8:29 And he saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Peter answereth and saith unto him, Thou art the Christ.
8:30 And he charged them that they should tell no man of him.
(Note: The biblical and Jewish concept of the Christ (Greek) or Moshiach (Hebrew) is that of a human descendent of King David who will rule (Isaiah 11: etc), not of an incarnation or avatar of God -- as believed by the Pagans. Therefore his claiming to be a messiah itself denies that he believed himself to be God incarnate. I discuss the messianic requirements etc. elsewhere so wont go into this issue here).
8:38 Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.
10:5 And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept.
10:6 But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female...
10:9 What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
(Note: Another another wrote the precept, another established their genders and another joined them together. To Y'shua, God is clearly and consistently Other than himself).
10:18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.
11:22 And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God...
11:25 And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought against any: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses.
11:26 But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.
(Note: There is no reference to his being the one who is simultaneously in Heaven. Rather Y'shua consistently speaks of HaShem as being Other than himself. Y'shua was a man on the earth, HaShem is God in the heavens: 'I am here, He is there').
12:24 And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?
(Note: Not 'my power').
12:27 He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living: ye therefore do greatly err.
12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
Mar 12:30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
(Note: Jesus quotes the Shema here (Deuteronomy 6:4) and says the fact that God is absolutely ONE (Hebrew: echad) is the first and most important thing to understand. "The Lord is ONE. "Echad in Hebrew means absolutely one and indivisible, unless modified, and it is not modified here nor in the Shema. God is not 'one bunch' as some claim, that would be modified as in Ba'al beliefs. Rather HaShem is echad: One and Indivisible. The Greek word used here, heis, also means numerically one, however its usage is not as precise as the Hebrew word echad that it seeks to convey in this verse. Y'shua was citing the Shema and so his meaning is clearly echad regardless of the Greek word used to convey it. The Trinity and deity of Jesus beliefs absolutely violate this first principle of biblical and Jewish religion according to Jesus himself).
14:36 And he said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee; take away this cup from me: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt.
15:34 And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
2:49 And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father's business?
4:18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me....
4:43 And he said unto them, I must preach the kingdom of God to other cities also: for therefore am I sent.
7:28 For I say to you, Among those who are born of woman there is not a greater prophet than John the Baptist. But he who is least in the kingdom of God is greater than he.
(Yeshua clearly states that no one born of women (which he was) is greater than John the Baptist. So, if Yeshua is not greater than John, he can not be God.)
10:21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.
10:22 All things are delivered to me of my Father: and no man knoweth who the Son is, but the Father; and who the Father is, but the Son, and he to whom the Son will reveal him.
11:2 And he said unto them, When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.
11:3 Give us day by day our daily bread.
18:19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.
18:20 Thou knowest the commandments...
(Note: Jesus is not the Good One and he places himself under the authority of Torah).
20:37 Now that the dead are raised, even Moses shewed at the bush, when he calleth the Lord the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.
20:38 For he is not a God of the dead, but of the living: for all live unto him.
22:42 Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.
22:67 Art thou the Christ? tell us. And he said unto them, If I tell you, ye will not believe:
22:68 And if I also ask you, ye will not answer me, nor let me go.
22:69 Hereafter shall the Son of man sit on the right hand of the power of God.
23:46 And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.
2:16 And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father's house an house of merchandise.
3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son...
3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world...
(Note: Remember that there are no capital letters in Greek, so the capital "S" in Son throughout the New Testament (when applied to Jesus as Son of God, Son of Man etc) only reflects the Nicean Christian beliefs of the translators not the Greek texts.
In this study we are only interested in establishing whether or not he viewed himself as God. His messianic ambitions are discussed elsewhere and wont be addressed here. Note however that he says his father sent him. Clearly he does not consider himself to be his own father).
4:34 Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work
5:17 But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.
5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
5:20 For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth: and he will shew him greater works than these, that ye may marvel...
5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son...
5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;
5:27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man....
5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.
5:31 If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true....
5:36 But I have greater witness than that of John: for the works which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me.
5:37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape...
5:43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.
5:45 Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.
5:46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.
5:47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?
(Note: He is explaining that as a tzadik (i.e. a righteous Torah observant Jew) he lives by the Word of HaShem and that his actions are always in harmony with Torah -- which was given through Moses. he says in effect, 'if you really observed the Torah of Moses you would understand that my teachings are the same'. This is what he is saying. He is therefore claiming significant, debatable, authority, but he no where claims divinity!).
6:32 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the true bread from heaven.
6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out...
6:39 And this is the Father's will [who] hath sent me...
6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me.
(Note: He says that he was sent by another, by HaShem].
7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.
7:17 If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.
7:28 Then cried Jesus in the temple as he taught, saying, Ye both know me, and ye know whence I am: and I am not come of myself, but he that sent me is true, whom ye know not.
7:29 But I know him: for I am from him, and he hath sent me.
(Note: Again, we are not debating the accuracy of his doctrine here, only what he says about his own nature. What he is clearly saying is that rabbinim of his day had lost sight of God's Will. This is something many authorities were warning about during this period. But Y'shua added that he was sent by another (i.e. by God) to finish the work begun by John the Baptist, i.e. reforming Judaism and calling the people to teshuvah or repentance).
8:19 Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also.
(Note: They were not the same beings: You would have know HaShem also...
Like Torah, Y'shua defines sons of God as those who obey HaShem: "You are children of the Lord, your God" -- Deuteronomy 14:1. Conversely those who do not harmonize their will with HaShem's Will are not the children of God, even though He Alone is Creator).
8:38 I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father....
8:40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.
8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me (Note: 'If God were your father': he is using this term to mean 'if you were really Torah observant and had faith (emunah) in God'. The same elsewhere where he say his mother, brothers and sisters are those who live in emunah, whose lives are governed by service to HaShem).
8:54 Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God:
10:14 I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.
10:15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.
10:17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.
10:18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.
(Note: The 'shepherd' serves the owner of the sheep. Even so he is saying that he serves the owner of souls, HaShem, the Father. He is not claiming to be God. He is claiming to be an expert shepherd and that his service is pleasing to God).
10:25 Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.
10:29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
* Make sure and read the next verses all the way to end for the context! *
10:30 I and my Father are one.
10:31 Then the Jews [literally the Judeans, they were all Jews] took up stones again to stone him.
10:32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?
10:33 The Jews [literally the Judeans, they were all Jews] answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
10:37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not.
10:38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.
10:39 Therefore they sought again to take him: but he escaped out of their hand...
(Note: Verse 33 is sometimes used out of context as evidence that the rabbanim understood Jesus to be claiming divinity, however when we read his entire reply it is clear that he is not making such a blasphemous claim. As shown above, Y'shua properly defines the term 'son of God' as a person who does God's will (remember, there are no capital letters in Greek or Hebrew). Here, quoting Psalm 82, he notes that many people are sons of God and that it is HaShem's Will for the Jewish people to arise to their intended status. Part of his proposed reforms was the uplifting of the Jewish people to their rightful place in the divine economy: i.e. Jews are to be a "kingdom of priests and a holy nation" (Exodus 19:6). At John 1:12 we have: But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God. In other words, his teachings uplifted his talmidim and encouraged their Torah observance. He is saying here that he is a son of God, is devoted to Torah and that those who embrace his teachings should be the same. What angered the rabbinim was the implied suggestion that their teachings did not produce the same results).
11:41 Then they took away the stone from the place where the dead was laid. And Jesus lifted up his eyes, and said, Father, I thank thee that thou hast heard me.
11:42 And I knew that thou hearest me always: but because of the people which stand by I said it, that they may believe that thou hast sent me.
(Note: He says that he was "sent" -- no one sends God -- and that prayer is the way he receives his directions from his superior, from HaShem).
12:28 Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again.
12:49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
12:50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.
13:31 Therefore, when he was gone out, Jesus said, Now is the Son of man glorified, and God is glorified in him.
13:32 If God be glorified in him, God shall also glorify him in himself, and shall straightway glorify him.
14:1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you
14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments...
(Note: literally my entole. This word can correctly be understood as HaShem's "Commandments" -- as in the 613 and/or the 7 -- or as Jesus' prescription/directions on how to properly observe the Commandments you already have. In neither case does this verse equate Y'shua with HaShem Who gave the Law to Moshe/Moses).
14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him...
14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
(Note: We are not focussing the trinity doctrine here, but note that this verse does not even imply that "the Comforter" is a third god (nor individual being). HaShem is echad: One. This is the Ruach or Spirit Presence of HaShem referenced as His presence throughout the Bible).
15:1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.
15:8 Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.
15:9 As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love.
15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
(Note: Y'shua was a Torah observant Jew who kept HaShem's commandments. Such a statement could never be applied to God).
15:23 He that hateth me hateth my Father also.
15:24 If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated both me and my Father.
(Note: People are not usually anti-Semitic because of anything we have or have not done as Jews. Ultimately they hate Klal Israel because they hate HaShem and His eternal Covenant with us. In the same way, at times non-observant Jews become angry with or judgemental of observant Jews because of their observance and what it implies about the non-observance of their detractors. This is his point and its truth has born out across the span of Jewish history).
15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:
16:10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more...
16:15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
16:16 A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again, a little while, and ye shall see me, because I go to the Father.
(Note: One who is truly a tzadik is so in harmony with HaShem that God's Will becomes his/her will. Such a person realizes that everything she/he has comes from and returns to HaShem. This is what Y'shua is claiming here. The point can be accepted or rejected, however this in no way implies that he believed himself to be God incarnate, a notion completely alien Jewish thought).
16:26 At that day ye shall ask in my name: and I say not unto you, that I will pray the Father for you:
16:27 For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God.
16:28 I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.
(Note: He says he will return to being with the Father not that he will return to being the father. In his claims of before and after existence with HaShem he never even implies that was/is nor will become HaShem. For Y'shua HaShem is always Other and superior to him).
17:1 These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:
17:2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him...
17:4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do...
(Note: Remember that this "work" was to complete the work of John the Baptist: i.e. calling the Jews to teshuvah/repentance: John: 5:36: But I have greater witness than that of John: for the works which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me).
17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
17:6 I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word...
17:12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.
17:17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
17:21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
17:22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
(Note: When Y'shua speaks of being "one with God" he does so in this way. JUST AS he is one with HaShem his followers can be one with HaShem. He is teaching that by harmonizing ones will with HaShem's Will one can find unity with the Divine. The Chassidim and other Jews teach the same. To take such phrases as claims to divinity would, to be consistent, mean that his followers are also God!).
17:23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
17:24 Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.
17:25 O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me.
17:26 And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.
20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
(Note:He considers himself no different than other humans with one exception: he is Torah observant with complete emunah while most are not. Yet all can be! He invites his followers to join him and to, like him, 'ascend to the Father.' -- possibly alluding to the mystical teachings concealed in Jacob's Ladder, the Adam Kadmon etc.).
20:23 Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.
(Note: A common question is how a man could forgive sins when Torah ascribes this only to HaShem. Here Y'shua ascribes this authority to his followers as well as himself. He may be saying that compassionate humans can assist each other in teshuvah (by listening and advising) or this may have been added later by the Catholic Church to support the authority of their priesthood (they teach that only their ordained clergy has this power). In either case, Y'shua is not claiming this power only for himself and so this is not an ability based claim to divinity.
As I have shown, nowhere in the Gospels does Y'shua/Jesus claim to be God incarnate. In many many verses he directly says the opposite. If he believed such a thing surely he would have made it clear to his followers and used it in his arguments with his religious authorities. In Scripture the Holy One is always strong and forthright. He does not hem and haw!And He said, "You will not be able to see My face, for man shall not see Me and live" -- Exodus 33:20Many many people saw and touched Y'shua.
Comments and Questions:
Elijah Levi Brown: This is not j-man saying he is G-d , but it seems he allowed others to call him such . " Thomas said to him " My lord and my G-d" John 20:28. I would of thought he would have rebuked Thomas of this blasphemy.
My reply: Thanks. This is one of the few passages that, if taken alone, might appear to be making that statement. We have a few things to consider however.
1). We have no prior statements supporting this belief. For such a major blasphemy (from a Jewish perspective, and they were all Jewish) to come up at this late date in his ministry is extremely unlikely;It is likely that this was what was actually said.
2). It is inconceivable that Jesus would not have told them early in the ministry and we have no evidence that he did.
3). For something so astounding to be revealed from a low level follower like Thomas instead of James or Peter makes it suspect;
4). What he is saying is open to interpretation when read without preconceived assumptions. In my opinion he is making a traditional berakhah (blessing) at witnessing the miracle. Upon witnessing a miracle a Jew says:
Barukh attah Adonai eloheinu melekh ha-olam, she’asah li nes bamakom hazzeh.
"Blessed are You, LORD, our God, King of the universe Who did a miracle in this place."
Not only did Jesus not rebuke him for blasphemy no one else present questioned it, let alone rebuked it.
In my opinion Thomas did not call him God
In the end we have this teaching of Jesus:Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews -- John 4:22