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Question: Because Jews now accepted Christ, do they also accept the TRINITY formulated by Roman Catholic Church. What is your view of Jesus Christ and the Godhead?
Clarification: Despite the so-called Messianic Jews (who are really Christians, not Jews), the vast majority of Jews today as in the past do not "accept Christ." Jews continue to reject the claim that Jesus is the Messiah (Christ) for the same reasons we always have: he did not fulfill the qualifications. In addition to this obvious fact, the continuing Jewish rejection of Jesus is based on what the Nicene Christian Church teaches about him. Another dividing issue is the antisemitic actions they have done (and continue to do) in his name. No Torah observant Jew could possibly accept the Jesus of Nicene Christianity nor their anti-Torah trinity doctrine. Those Jews who do have abandoned our religion.
The vast majority of people now calling themselves "Messianic Jews" are not really Jews at all. This is a form of Christian taqiyya (i.e. deception employed to convert people to ones religion). These are mainly Nicene Christian Gentiles (i.e. non-Jews who embrace the Nicene Creed). Almost every Christian denomination and sect accepts this document as a matter of doctrinal faith. This includes "Jews for Jesus" and similar Messianic Christian sects. No one who accepts the Nicene Creed is religiously Jewish. You can read this Creed HERE if interested to see why this document must be rejected by those who accept the teachings of Torah.
John the Apostle directly warns about such people 'who claim to be Jews but are not' at Revelation 2:9, 15 and 3:9. Doing so is a serious offense against the elect of God and is a serious violation of Torah.
Becoming Jewish requires formal conversion into Judaism through a recognized Jewish beit din (i.e. religious court) and the embrace of the essential Jewish doctrine: The absolute Oneness of God as declared in the Shema (Deuteronomy 6:4).
Liar, Lunatic, Lord or Libeled
Lewis' Christian trilemma posits that Jesus was either a liar, lunatic or Lord. There is another likely option however. When we examine his teachings as recorded in the New Testament without presumption we find that he was neither a liar, lunatic nor the Lord. He was libeled! According to the Gospel records Jesus never claimed to be God nor part of a trinity. I demonstrate this in great detail here. For now, the New Testament teaches these points about him:
There are many many such verses in the New Testament declaring that God is greater, wiser, and possesses more knowledge than Jesus (Mark 13:32) or anyone else. According to the New Testament Jesus was a righteous Jew (a tzaddik) who always submitted to the superior Will of HaShem. He prayed to God that this would be equally true of those who embraced his reforms (John 17:11-23).
- There was a time before which Jesus did not exist in any form (Colossians 1:12-15). God was never created.
- John says that Jesus was one with the Torah or Word of God (John 1:1), not that he was God. This claims that everything he taught and did was in complete harmony with Torah (John 5:19). God transcends even Torah.
- The author of the Letter to the Hebrews says that Jesus is our elder brother (Hebrew 2:11) -- God is our Father.
- Matthew 6:9 quotes Jesus as praying "Our father" not "your father" or "Myself who is in Heaven."
- All who are Torah observant are in the same sense 'one with God' (John 17:11) because they are in agreement with Torah (the Word) and Torah reveals the Mind of God. Torah is not God, it reveals His will. Jesus prayed for God's anointing on his followers that they would be one with him (Jesus) in the same way that he is one with HaShem (John 17:22). Clearly he was not praying that his followers would become gods!
- Paul clarifies this point concisely when he tells Timothy:"For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus" (King James Version of I Timothy 2:5)
- Jesus himself states:My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand (John 10:29).And again,Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I (John 14:28).
- Many people saw Jesus and yet Torah says no one can see God and live (Exodus 33:20).
According to the New Testament, Jesus was a fully Torah observant Jewish reformer. He said that not a single yod would ever be removed from Torah. Whatever he actually taught therefore must have been in harmony with Torah according to the New Testament. And what does Torah say on this subject?Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear, O Israel: The LORD is our God. The Lord is one [echad].""Echad" is not modified here (as in 'one bunch of grapes') and so it can only mean absolute one without division. The God of Israel and the Bible is echad. This word means "one and only," "one and there is no other," this and not that. This word is clear despite how some Nicene Christians try to twist its meaning. He is not "one of three" like one bunch of grapes. In that case, the word 'bunch' modifies the echad. In the Shema there is no modification. HaShem is ONE, echad. What does it mean that God is One?
Prophet Isaiah quotes the One God as saying:Isaiah 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.There is NO ONE equal to, independent of, nor empowered as, HaShem. He alone is the God of everything. Even Jesus' Hebrew name confirms this: Yeshua means "Salvation is of Yah." According to the New Testament Jesus was always pointing to HaShem as a Being other than himself, as the sole source of redemption.
GOD alone saves. The common statement that "Jesus saves" contradicts Torah and hence God. HaShem does this through various means according to His purposes, but He is the only Redeemer.
In the Bible Ba'al worship is frequently and thoroughly rejected for the Jews and other followers of biblical religion. Ba'al worship is essentially the belief in a godhead that is divisible into parts and that manifests as separate gods (known as ba'als or "masters"). They believed that each of these ba'als controlled various aspects of existence as demigods, or devas as they are known in India. This is widely known and nothing new. For instance:"Ba'al" can refer to any god and even to human officials; in some texts it is used as a substitute for Hadad, a god of the rain, thunder, fertility and agriculture, and the lord of Heaven. Since only priests were allowed to utter his divine name, Hadad, Ba'al was commonly used. Nevertheless, few if any Biblical uses of "Ba'al" refer to Hadad, the lord over the assembly of gods on the holy mount of Heaven, but rather refer to any number of local spirit-deities worshipped as cult images, each called Ba'al and regarded in the Hebrew Bible in that context as a "false god" SourceTHE revelation of Abraham was and is that there is only One God, Eternal and Indivisible. The Trinity dogma opposes this fundamental biblical revelation. It should be thoroughly rejected by those who seek to worship the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, and yes, Y'shua of Nazareth. God is Echad.
Abraham's father produced ba'als for worship, but HaShem revealed to the patriarch of our people the singularly important truth that God is echad, that God is indivisibly One. That he is not like the ba'als. The Nicene trinity dogma and the doctrine of the deity of Jesus created in the 3rd and 4th centuries CE by a group of non-Jewish Roman bishops denies this fundamental revelation, this foundational declaration of biblical and Jewish religion.
Did Jesus Believe He Was God? Read his own words on the subject! He did not.
No one who accepts this teaching can accurately be considered religiously Jewish. Judaism is strictly monotheistic.
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