Questioner: John of AllFaith and ReligiousWeaver (Richard, who lives in the UK)

Subject: The Coming War With Islam: A conversation

Hi R...

"Hi Big J'

Sorry I ended so abruptly yesterday. I knew I'd be busy for the rest of the day and I wanted to go ahead and send the e-mail....

More below...

ReligiousWeaver wrote:

Hi Big J'

>> Islam is NOW on the move. Sharia denies the rights of ANY country not based on Islamic law. In other words, according to Islam, not only is Israel not a "real" country, neither is the US, the UK, France, etc. Sharia denies the human rights of ANY people not submitted to Islamic law.

So are you saying that now were in it we have to win it?? I have come recently to understand that we are now in a war we have to win...Islam will not take our backing off as anything other than weakness and in my opinion will make them increase their violent activities...whether the war was right or wrong to start with is now not the point anymore as we are in it now and I can't see any option left to us.

John of AllFaith:

I try and look at things from a spiritual point of view, not that I am always correct of course, but I think there are bigger issues here ... I'm saying that World War Three is NOW on, and that the US and its allies will LOSE IF they proceed as they are currently going.

Islam has the righteous cause here... By this I mean that they were attacked without due cause. The Muslim people had no desire to fight the US and even the situation in Israel wasn't that out-of-hand.

When Bush, Blair etc. declared jihad against Islam without ANY just cause they opened Pandora's Box. If the US, the UK, etc. continue fighting Islam under these unjust conditions, the Western capitalist societies will not only fail, they will fall.

Whether one chooses to believe that Allah Subhana wa ta'alla is God and that Muhammad (PBUH) is His Prophet or not, one thing is certain... THEY do. Islam is advancing with the power of faith, a conviction that honestly convinces them to not only willingly die as "martyrs," but that such "glorious deaths" are PREFERABLE to life.

Now consider the West. Christianity is a lukewarm bastion of secularism and hypocrisy (with many many many clear exceptions of course). The majority of Christians think it too much to ask that they even show up at church once in a week, while Muslims regularly prayer physically demanding and socially risky (in the West) prayers five times a day (or more).

For the most part, we in the West are fat and woefully out of shape, while most Muslims, in whatever country, are generally healthy and active, plus they are driven by religious piety and outrage.

So you tell me, what will drive we greedy Westerners to fight and die? And in the name of what will we fight? The vast majority of Westerners believe in nothing but consumerism and hedonism.

"God is dead" in the West, or might as well be as far as the vast majority of people are concerned. Europe has a haunting memory of WWII and wants nothing to do with another war. Americans are apathetically brainwashed with America's "manifest destiny" nonsense of nothing can stop us... and besides, most of us, currently around 82% according to the polls, believe our government is run by crooked bureaucrats who couldn't care less about us or our country and so, this recent election aside, don't even bother to vote! Our Congress has a lower turn-over than the Soviet Politbüro did!

Now we're supposed to fight the fiercest battle in history? One that will take place in New York, in London? in Paris? in LA, in Berlin? in Montreal? in Jerusalem? in Delhi? in..... AND the war is OUR FAULT because we allowed a traitor to steal two US elections!!!!

The West MUST take the high road in this mess! We can not win if WE are the bad guys! I'll discuss my thoughts on options below.

YOU (quoting me):

"I am working on a new piece about Islam that will accurately describe what is really going on with Islam, as I perceive it. It will probably piss off everyone who reads it!"

My favourite kind of article...lol and I look forward to reading it.

John of AllFaith:

You it might not piss off too badly, we'll see ;-)

YOU (quoting me):

"Now, events are in motion and I don't think they can be stopped. Whose fault is this? The fault lies with the US and the UK and their citizens (i.e. you and I)."

I don't think this is correct John as the muslim war drums were already beating and the calls for Jihad where already being made...granted war must have 2 sides to be a war but that makes both sides responsible not just one....and 9-11 and 7-7 was an attack on the west by Islam (I know there are a few people who are claiming US involvement because of the the way the towers collapsed but I went point to point through these with my good friend whom is a structural engineer for the fire brigade and he says their claims are all "Bollox" to use his words).

John of AllFaith:

Your friend is 100% wrong. Watch this video from beginning to end: http://allfaith.com/vids/911.html

9-11 was Bush's Reich-stag fire. He was hated by almost everyone. He was the first "president" in US history to be egged and mocked as he made his inaugural walk to the White House (he and Laura were forced into a limo to escape the outraged protesters!) Impeachment proceedings began the day of his election.

Once I post my new study I'll discuss this in detail, for now... Hitler vowed he would not take power without the "will of the people". When he failed to get that, he staged the Reich stag fire, blaming the terrorists (in that case the Communists). This got him the support he needed.

I believe, Bush set up Bin Laden. As other devout Wahhabi Sunni, Sheik Bin Laden dreamed of a global Islamic Ummah and fomented revolt against US rule among Muslims the world over. His call was NOT being answered however.

George W made a deal with him. If Sheik bin Laden arranged a more serious attack on the Twin Towers (i,e, 9-11), Bush, as US dictator, would grant him Afghanistan and later help him overthrow the Ummah-wide hated Saud Royal Family. Bin Laden was faithful to his word and the attack was arraigned.

Knowing that the World Trade Center had intentionally been DESIGNED to withstand direct multiple hits by 707's (at the time the largest passenger planes), the Bush junta knew the plane attacks would fail to down the towers. Therefore EXPLOSIVES were placed throughout both buildings. THEY are what brought the towers down, not the plane. This is now provable. It is IMPOSSIBLE for jet fuel to get hot enough to melt steel. The video I referenced, http://allfaith.com/vids/911.html explains exactly what happened from highly respected experts in the various fields.

As for Islam already plotting attacks etc. This is NOT correct either. A small and insignificant cadre of Muslims were plotting and carrying out random attacks. the vast majority of Muslims CONDEMNED these attacks and distanced themselves from those that carried them out. Islam was NOT the enemy of the US prior to 9-12-01. The Muslim world mourned the attacks of 9-11 around the globe. Only a SMALL group of Wahhabi and a few others were celebrating.

On 9-12-01 Herr Bush made his stupid, disastrous, completely intentional comment and announced a "Crusade" against Islam. He stabbed his partner in crime, Sheik Bin Laden, in the back and prepared to attack Afghanistan. He later backtracked and spoke of "Islamic Extremism" etc. which is just dumb.

There are two types of Muslims. Those who are fully devoted to Islam, and those who are not! Prior to 9-11 the vast majority of Muslims were not that devout! Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) stated in no uncertain terms that it is the responsibility of ALL Muslims to revert the whole world (One "re-verts" into Islam rather than "convert"... semantics...). He said, 'By the heart is best, but by the sword suffices'. They tried to convert you by the heart, the sword is coming (not on you personally, on the UK).

YOU:

"Over here in the UK Islam has already begun to collapse from the inside and I meet many whom have left islam after the 7-7 attacks at one point in the 90's it was the fastest growing religion in the UK but this has now changed to Buddhism and ex muslims have said that more people are leaving than being converted so it's numbers are beginning to slowly dwindle....even in the prisons since 7-7 more prisoners are going to Christ and Buddhism than Islam...perhaps that's why they are trying the hard conversion stuff...so there may be hope after all."

John of AllFaith:

Means nothing I'm afraid. Most converts to any religion are not ready for jihad (crusades etc.). The UK Ummah is merely separating its wheat from the chaff so to speak. ALSO... MANY Western Muslims who say they are leaving Islam are not. They are going undercover. For many, it is a cover so they will not be suspected as they await their time of activation. Sure, many sincere people are leaving Islam here as well, but the people who matter are not... even if they seem to. They are becoming more committed to global jihad, not less. Don't buy the smokescreen.

There is always hope of course, but the War is coming to a city near you regardless.

YOU (quoting me):

"Islam is intent on ruling the planet, both politically and spiritually. Bush supports the New World Order. It is as much a threat as Islam, perhaps a greater threat!"

I think Islam is the bigger threat as Bush will step down once his term is up plus you all have the option of free speech and voting something which Islam would forbid me thinx.

John of AllFaith:

There is nothing saying Bush will step down on '09. In his speech of three or four days ago he hinted that he might not. Of our recent election he said, I paraphrase, "Even during a time of war we held elections." One does not have to "read between the lines" too much to see that as we are at war it might not be advisable to hold elections next time... But even if he does step down, so what? He's just a figurehead. The rulers of the New World Order were around long before Bush and they will be here after he is gone (unless Messiah comes).

This isn't about Bush anyway. Its MUCH larger than him. One of many many examples of this was seen in the first thing Nancy Palosi, the new Speaker of the House, said: She intends to block any attempt at holding Bush responsible for this treason. Nothing changed.

In a country of millions, two nearly identical political parties does not a free nation make. We can vote between Jack the Ripper and the Boston Strangler, it means little.

YOU:

So what would you do if you had to choose between and world run by Islam or a world run by Western power personally I'd go with the west as I like my daughters to be living as equals rather than servants and I prefer my freedom to worship the Buddha, Jesus, Krishna without my head leaving my shoulders.

John of AllFaith:

I don't know what's going on in the UK, but in the US freedom of religion is under serious attack. Within a few years I expect religion to be prohibited everywhere except in government approved churches and in the home. Any public expression of religion is already risky here.

What I'd prefer is a third option. I'd prefer to live in a free country. that's the reason for my recent political statements etc.

YOU:

I watched a program yesterday on religion and the Islamic's keep using the phrase the lands of mohammed but surely the land all belongs to God and not Mohammed.

John of AllFaith:

Now you're getting it. According to Islam, the "Lands of Muhammad (PBUH)", Mecca, Medina and Jerusalem mainly, are to be the religious centers of the "Lands of Allah," the earth.
Unless one supports this, which i don't, it must be opposed... BUT it must be opposed wisely. Atheistic nations attacking a deeply religious country (the Muslim Ummah) without any justifiable cause is tantamount to suicide! Yet this is what our countries are doing! THEY believe they can defeat and co-opt Islam into their desired New World Order. It wont work!

You:

Anyway I hope you're well and that you remain safe.

John of AllFaith:

Thanks... So here's what I think in a nutshell...

First, I am firmly convinced that the prophecies are being fulfilled right before our eyes and that NOTHING will stop their fulfillment, nothing.

Nonetheless, I think we are obligated to work for peace and the betterment of humanity.

I believe, that the Bush Junta should be impeached, thrown out of office, tried, found guilty of treason, war crimes, and crimes against humanity and jailed.

The US should set a very short time frame for its complete withdrawal from the Middle East, except for Israel where the number of US troops should be as high as the State of Israel wants.

During this time, the US and other western countries should restore democracy and encourage, not legislate, the free expression of religion and religious faith.

The West should expel all Muslim non-citizens from their countries without notice.

We should make it clear that we are taking these actions out of self defense and that the West will meet any opposition with the up most seriousness.

Any expelled person who wishes to return must undergo a thorough screening and demonstrate clear cause why they should be allowed back in. Immigration, other than in very exceptional cases, should be restricted to our historic and present allies.

Then we wait and negotiate treatise etc.

A new Western (and Israeli) alliance and statement of mutual defense should be signed between our allies pledging themselves to mutual defense. A new Western-allies only UN should be formed to determines these matters with ALL member nations having an equal voice. Turkey should be excluded.

IF the new allies (US, UK, Germany, France, Canada, Israel... etc..) are attacked we deal with it harshly and decisively as one united force as directed by the new Western UN.

"Attack us and die."

Its that simple. The Muslims can do as they please in their own countries. The new allies will not interfere. If they wish to experiment with nukes, that's their right. Set one off and your country goes bye bye. No discussion, no debate.

This way, the West comes off strong and justified when it does act, even if people think it goes too far. We are not controlling other countries. We are firmly committed to the self defense of our member nations. Those countries that allow terrorists to run free, like Lebanon, are put on notice. If you do not control your countries we will. Israel will not be attacked from Lebanon, Syria, Iran etc. without those countries facing dire results. If the attacks are from national governments or are supported by them, bye bye.

This might be nukes, but probably means massive carpet bombing, no ground troops. The West does what it deems necessary to protects the member nations. It does not play around with political correctness. The Islamic Ummah is deadly serious, and so are we.

The West should spend whatever funds are needed to get off of petrol. There are other, cleaner, less politically problematic fuels. If the oil companies want to stay in business they had better produce alternative energies fast.

More of less, this I think is the only solution at the present time and this will NOT happen.

What will happen, I except, is more of the same.

France is on the verge of falling to Islam now, it will probably fall within five or ten years. When the time is right, probably when the street wars begin in earnest against the US and UK, China will enter and we will then see a global holocaust that will destroy the West as global powers.

This, IF Messiah does not come.

I fully expect that shortly after the fall of the US and the UK, the Dijal or Anti-Christ will arise from with the EU and begin his work of global unification. Maranatha,

~John of AllFaith

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