Response to a Muslim
Is Islam the True Religion?
John of AllFaith (formerly Muhammad Yahya Saleem) -- 10.05.10
This is a response to a post I received in my AllFaith.com guest book. I'm posting here to provide a place for continued discussion with Tareq and others who may find this topic of interest. Comments and further discussion are invited Here
Hi Tareq,
--- Tareq: Muhammad Never claim or said that we worship the moon GOD, you have to give a reference for that...
JoA: Obviously he never claimed that. That's the whole point. He deliberately mislead the Arab people. He created the impression that his new religion originated with Avraham and Ishmael when in reality it is the continued worship of the Pagan Moon god Hubal-Sin. I demonstrate this thoroughly in my studies you are referring to.
... Tareq: ...we indeed worship the God of every body not just God of Abraham or Jesus (ALLAH)is the name of GOD, even Arab Cristian and Jews use the same Name Allah...
JoA: The God of the Bible has a personal name. Allah is not a name, its a title that just means "god." God is not a name. There are countless gods but only one True God: HaShem according to the Bible. The name of the allah of Islam is Hubal-Sin not HaShem.
--- Tareq: ...in Hebrew Elohim, Elah or Eloh are names of God which are very close to the Arabic name of God Allah, Elah.
JoA: Elohiym, Elah, etc. are titles, not names. The Echad Elohiym (the One God) has a Personal Name as well as many titles.
Allah means "the god" or "the idol." Your allah is called that because he was chief of the 360 ba'als of Mecca as I explain in the piece you are referencing.
--- Tareq: Its impossible that Mohammad (PBUH) used any religious books like the Vedaz because
1. was an illiterate (he cant read or write in his language even and the Vedaz or bible or Torah where in deferent languages)
JoA: According to Islam he was illiterate. We know Muhammad lived at a major crossroads where religious discussions were common. Among those he would have encountered were the spice and silk merchants from India and Persia. Al Qu'ran frequently paraphrases their Scriptures and draws from the doctrines of their religions including those of Indian Vedas and Persian (Zoroastrian) Avesta. He would not need to be literate to learn from what he told by others.
--- Tareq: 2. in Vedaz not mentioned any thing about Abraham or Noah and the Prophets of the Jews or their story's .
JoA: There is much in the Vedas that he drew from and there is in much in al Qu'ran besides what is in the Torah.
--- Tareq: 3. The Quaran used a very high form of language, even the Arab at that time said that these words couldn't be from him (Muhammad)
JoA: The exact transmission of any ancient text is debatable. You are inaccurately implying that Muhammad revealed a book from an angel and that that book is the one we have today. That is not correct even according to Muslim scholars.
According to Islam Muhammad spoke al Qu'ran piece by piece over a period of 23 years to the Qurra. This group consisted of many different people, mostly illiterate according to the Muslim pundits. The celebration of illiteracy in Islam is peculiar and itself implies they were hiding the plagiarism they did by emphasizing it so much. What other religion glorifies the ignorance (lack of knowledge, no insult intended) of its founder? Very odd.As the Qurra became literate (they were taught to read by the prisoners-of-war they were capturing) they wrote al Qu'ran wrote al Qu'ran according to Islam itself.
There are even ridiculous accounts/accusations of Jewish prisoners intentionally altering/corrupting the Qu'ran as it was being written!
In any case, the Sahaba (learned reciters of Qu'ran) gradually wrote out al Qur'an as they improved their language skills. What they wrote was contrasted and debated and eventually resulted in the Qu'ran we have today. Muhammad's ability to read and write is therefore irrelevant to claims that he, not an angel, wrote the book. It was written by his followers according to Islam.Over a period of 23 years Muhammad heard from various people he met, he debated and discussed the different beliefs, thought about it, then dictated his thoughts a piece at a time to his secretaries (the Sahaba).
The new religion was established on the foundation they all accepted (that being the religion of Hubal-Sin) and Hubal's crescent moon and Ka'aba remain the focal point of the movement to this day.
As these foundations were laid Muhammad and his followers converted the Arabs and others by the sword: Embrace Allah Subhanahu wa-ta'ala as revealed by Muhammad his final prophet and his armies or die. The True God had nothing to do with it. Any warlord could create a religion that way and that is how Islam was founded and how is being foisted on the world today. People are afraid to point to the inconsistencies, afraid to refuse to bow before the ummah, afraid to teach their children the truth and today the Western world is largely shaking in its boots before Islamic barbarism. If the global caliphate becomes a reality it will be due to fear not because the One True God is with Ummah.
The original versions of al Qu'ran were initially spoken not written according to Islamic scholars themselves. They were later written on tablets, bones and the wide, flat ends of date palm fronds as the Sahaba became more skilled. None of these original texts exist and so one can not truthfully claim, as islam does, that al Qu'ran is exactly as revealed by Muhammad. These written tablets were not revealed by the angel even according to Muslim scholars. They were written by fallible human beings of various levels of linguistic ability based on what they were told by Muhammad and gradually correlated into the book now known as al Qu'ran.These editors and copyists, with at the very least Muhammad's permission and doubtless his direction, plagiarized the works of the other religions they knew of in order to create the "final revelation" of their final prophet and then forced submission on pain of the jizya (infidel) tax and/or death.
--- Tareq: 4. Why in Quran No Mistakes?? if he copied from any book their will be mistakes.
JoA: There are many mistakes in al Qu'ran, the changes in the accounts of the Torah about Avraham's dealings with Isaac for instance. Al Qu'ran plagiarizes those stories and replaces Isaac with Ishmael. Such are deliberate errors of taqiyya (deception). The inclusion of the Arab goddesses Lat, al-Uzza, and Manat was clearly a mistake and they have been removed from English versions. etc. etc.
There are lots of good sites showing the many many errors in al Qu'ran so I'll just link to one of these for examples. As an example: from: http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/SKM/contradictions.htm#1 we have the following
How many days did it take to create Heavens and Earth ?Quran 7: 54 Your gurdian-Lord is Allah who created the heavens and earth in Six Days
Quran 10: 3 Verily your Lord is Allah, who created the heavens and earth in Six Days
Quran 11:7 He it is Who created the heavens and earth in Six Days
Quran-25:29: He Who created the heavens and earth and all that is between, in Six Days
The above verses clearly state that God created the heaven and Allah created the heaven and the Earth in 6 days. But the verses below stated-
Quran 41: 9 Is it that ye deny Him who created the earth in Two Days ?
Quran 41: 10 He set on the (earth) Mountains standing firm high above it, and bestowed blessing on the earth, and measured therein all things to give them nourishment in due proportion, in FOUR DAYS…
Quran 41: 12 So He completed them (heavens) as seven firmaments in Two days and …
The simple fact is, Islam is a false system, based on the worship of the moon god Hubal-Sin and Muhammad's desire of global conquest.
Islam is at enmity with the Echad Elohiym of the Bible and the people He has Chosen to manifest Himself to the world, the Jews.
Does the One True God have mercy on those who have been deceived by Islam? HaShem is most Merciful and Compassionate to everyone and considers the heart and intention of all who seek Him, however be advised that He also says we need to carefully consider how we deal with His Elect:
KJV: Genesis 12:3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.Islam curses the Chosen People of the One True God, is working to steal their God decreed Land and according to Islam will one day genocide them all together as the trees cry out, "Come here O Muslim for there is a Jew hiding behind me; come quickly and kill it!
The true God is not calling for Muslims to murder His people!
Islam is a divinely-cursed movement. It is not descended from Avraham and Ishmael.
But even if it was, HaShem clearly says in His Torah:
KJV: Genesis 17:20 And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation.
17:21But my covenant will I establish with Isaac, which Sarah shall bear unto thee at this set time in the next year.
Y'shua the Nazarene: Ye worship ye know not what:
We know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews (John 4:22).For more information see my study here: http://allfaith.com/Religions/Islam/trueallah.html
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